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...Most vets don't mind doing it and will do an adequate job, but most equine vets prefer not to float teeth, however, they will still lobby against non-DVM equine dental specialists....obsurd! .....There are many people who work with horses in a variety of fields, are knowledgeable and do a good job. In regards to dentistry however, good hand floats and an un-sedated horse, definitely LIMIT ones ability to do the best job. In any discipline, experience, education, and/or the use of different equipment and methods can make a major difference in the outcome of a job. Not only equipment, but education has been much more specialized and intense to perform this level of equine dentistry. I am a licensed veterinarian, yet 99% of the expertise that I now have in the field of equine dentistry, I learned outside of veterinary school, in the ongoing pursuit of equine dental continuing education...... |
....My husband is an educated EDT. Most of his clients are trainers and owners who have had a vet or an untrained equine dentist work on their horses teeth. We have rec'd letters thanking him for fixing the problems in their horses' mouths. Each one of my husbands clients would be happy and willing to back him up 100%. Just because you're a vet, doesn't mean you are qualified to do teeth..... ...A graduate veterinarian has the license to practice medicine, surgery and dentistry in all animal species. All of this training for all of these species of animals is done in four years. This means that they've usually learned a little knowledge about a great deal of subjects, equine dentistry included.... ...As one veterinary dentist put it, "I believe that it is unrealistic to expect an equine veterinarian to be an expert in all aspects of the field.... ..In any discipline, experience, education, and/or the use of different equipment and methods can make a major difference in the outcome of a job. Not only our equipment, but my education has been much more specialized and intense to perform this level of equine dentistry. I am a licensed veterinarian, yet 99% of the expertise that I now have in the field of equine dentistry, I learned outside of veterinary school, in the ongoing pursuit of equine dental continuing education. I continue to learn daily... |
| ......a non-veterinarian dentist is often far above that of a veterinarian. These dental practitioners provide high-quality service and should be allowed to continue to do so..... ....My husband and I have made our living with horses for over 30 years! The competition is very tough! We have to treat our horses like the athletes they are and give them every advantage to be their best! If that means alternative therapies that should be our decision. Just like it is the decision of parents to make for their children!..... CLICK HERE TO READ THE COMMENTS LEFT FROM THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED OUR PETITION ....Just yet another example of the government trying to control our lives instead of allowing every tax-paying, law-abiding, working citizen to make up their own minds and choose what is best for their families (and yes, this includes animals.) ...... ....This is a load of BS!!! My local vets have no clue how to properly maintain my horses teeth. he was skin and bones before I found someone an Equine Dentist to resolve his issues. That guy was from another state and it took 2 months to get an appointment. The horses are the ones who suffer. This guy also worked on the teeth of one of my show goats as well. Are the other animals next?..... ...Yes, there have been 3 different vets that have worked on my horses, and all of them failed to do a decent job. I have also used and equine dentist who was excellent. AFTER 3 SORRY JOBS BY 3 different vets.... ...We have miniature horses. Most veterinarians use the same equipment on them as big horses. Our Equine Dentist has the appropriate tools and knowledge of our unique breed..... ....I think Equine Dentists need to band together and make a stand!!!!.... ....If I would have trouble with my heart, I would go to a heart specialist, if I had trouble with my lungs, I would go to a lung specialist, etc. What ever the problem, I would want to go to the best. Why would I want anything different for my horses?.... ... I am in TOTAL support of equine dentists. They are trained and specialized in what they do, where most vets are not. I should be able to take my horses to who I want and trust and not lose my rights as a horse owner and AMERICAN!..... ....GOOD Equine dentistry means a healthy horse. If the vets would work with quailified dentist they not only could learn but build a bigger practice....word of mouth is the best advertisement plus it is FREE .... ...There are veterinarians who have special training and interest in dental work and do a very good job. My vet does a great job and has a good following of dental clients. It is unfair to lump all the vets together on this issue and treat them as the enemy. The legal objection is to the equine dentists using drugs and not knowing what to do if there's a bad reaction..... ...I've had the unfortunate opportunity to have equine veterinarians "work" on my horses teeth over the years. First of all, what a waste of money. Second, most of the vets were so terrified of what they were doing (because they had little training) that they frequently oversedated the horses. And, finally, I've had UNLICENSED equine "dentists" fix the damage done by the veterinarians. One of the worst examples was a veterinarian at Elgin Veterinary Clinic in Texas who didn't even notice a 3yo filly had one of her front incisors COMPLETELY PARALLEL TO THE GROUND! Then, he told me he could 'fix' it. Ha. He damaged the permanent tooth bulb so badly that the filly had a permanent missing tooth. Thanks to Texas A & M for his training! Another vet here in Texas is known for his lopsided float jobs. Any good equine dentist can recognize this equine vet's 'handiwork' from 20 paces. I prefer to use equine dentist Randy Riedenger or his ex-wife, Lora Pierson ANY DAY OF THE WEEK OVER ANY EQUINE VETERINARIAN. The veterinarians are simply trying to form a monopoly on everything to protect their dying industry and pay their student loans...... ....I feel that if I OWN the horse and my name is on the papers than I should be able to provide the care that I, myself, see fit. If it's not hurting the horse but rather helping it, then why would this be outlawed?.... ....We had out vet pull wolf teeth from our colt and he broke it off and just left it in there! I had to get an equine dentist to get it out! Most vets I've had to floating do a terible job. So much better of a job from an equine dentist who just does teeth! .... ...I had been looking for years for an equine "dentist" to float my horses. Couldn't find one that services my area. All the ones I found were way out of my area, and wanted $200 just to drive in the driveway! Well, my stallion started blowing up on the second barrel about a year ago. I know he needed his teeth done. First thing I had done was his teeth. I also needed my 2 mares done. I really didn't have the money at the time to pay the trip charge and the price for 3 floats. The vet I "use" to use, has been a good friend of my dad's for years. I broke down and let the vet do it. She charged me $100 per horse for 3, and $15 per wolf tooth on 2. horses. BIG MISTAKE!!!!! He started blowing up again. I thought the problem must be something else. Long story short, that was 10 months ago, and Faster is still blowing up. I had the chiropractor out, again, the first of January. He was out, but His Teeth Were Shocking. That vet messed him up soooo bad. She referred me to an equine dentist that is very good, and I was shocked when I found out he lives 40 miles from me and I never knew it. He came out immediately. Faster's diagnosis: (keep in mind, I didn't get to take them to the vet. I couldn't get off work. Hubby, non-horsey info, took them for me. So I didn't get to see what she did or I wouldn't have paid her this crap) The Dentist said: The vet only worked on the front 3 molars on both sides(top & bottom). Never touched the back molars. Those were so loose from being too long and uneven, he said that if I had waited any longer to of called him, Faster's back teeth would have fallen out! But, now they'll stay. His molars were also as sharp as serrated knife blades on the edges. The whole inside of his mouth looked like hamburger. The wolf teeth I paid to have pulled, no she didn't. She BROKE them off! Now they had grown back out, had jagged edges, with the nerve exposed. Dentist took them out for free. Now, on to the front teeth. Well, vet never bothered to touch them either. Faster's front top was almost a full 1/2" too long. So it created a huge over bite, and wouldn't allow his bottom teeth to slide forward and line up with the bottom when he put his head down(causing him to always be out at his poll, thus the chiropractor visits totaling 4 times). Oh yeah, and the front three molars she actually did file, were not even so it wore his teeth uneven. And, this is just one horse, I had her float 3 horses that day. Arrrgggg! The vet said my 3 year old filly was a twice a year float 'cause her top teeth were wider across the top than bottom. E. Dentist told me she wouldn't be a twice a year float IF the vet hadn't have screwed her up. Now it's going to take almost a year or more to fix her teeth, and at least 3 visits over the next year. I will NEVER EVER EVER use the vet again. I love my "Equine Dentist"! I found out why I it took me so long to find him. He can't advertise his business 'cause the vet I "was" currently using has had my Dentist set up and charged with felony's 8 times. I no longer use that vet either now. The vet went as far stalking my Dentist to customers houses and then would call the cops on him. That's desperate! IMO Somehow, he managed to beat all 8 charges, and is still working. Says, "let 'em charge me and I'll fight 'em. Cause I love my job". It's my horses. I pay for their food. I pay for there feet to get done. I pay to have their teeth done. I pay for the chiropractors. I talk care of them. I have my horses' best interest in mind. I go broke for them! I'll call who I want to do their teeth, and it sure as hell will not be a vet ever again!.... ....I think that you horse owners in OK should urge the dental techs down there to file suit against the state vet board for taking the right to work away from them. I'm a dental tech up north and myself and some other dental techs have decided that is what we would do if this happened up here. These vets that say they were trained outside of vet school, most of them are not telling you they learned by a non vet. Or a pro-eqdt doing the dentistry vs. the vet.... ...I have used the same Equine Dentist for the last 12 years, due to scheduling conflicts I had to take one of my horses to the local vet to get teeth worked on. They charged me by the tooth!!! I got out of there for $380 only to have to have him re-done 3 weeks later by our certified Equine Dentist for a very resonable $75 per horse. Not only is the cost a factor, but when you have 13 head that have to be done that would have been $5000 plus $975 to get them re-done by someone who knows what they are doing.... ...I wouldn't go to my personal MD, if I had a toothache. And I don't think my horse should have to have his teeth worked on by his vet. Dentist study strictly equine dentistry and I feel like they have a more thorough knowledge of my equine's mouth and proper dental care. To put it simply, It's my horse and I should be able to make up my ownl mind how he is taken care of and by whom. .... ....The most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! This guy is one of the best horse dentists bar none! Who was this law made for the horses welfare or the vet boards pocket book? - DVM....... |
| ...Let's get a comprehensive certification program for those who wish to perform equine dentistry and call it good. The public will weed out the weak ones, whether they are vets or equine dentists, just as the public does with doctors, lawyers, dentists, chiropractors, etc. In any profession there are the good and the bad. Just do not outlaw the equine dentists. We need them!... ....The rights of owners to choose the best care and the rights of equine dentists to practice are important ("Horse dentists, owners to file suit in protest of equine dental law," Aug. 29). The problem is not allowing an educated equine dentist the right to practice. The problem is certification. I do the research and choose what is best for my horses, myself and my children. Many vets are not as qualified as an equine dentist, and remember, the latest innovations, tools and research in equine dentistry are credited to equine dentists - not vets. The most comprehensive equine dental books are also written by the equine dentists - not the vets. The Texas Veterinary Board is in an uproar over a loss of business more than concern for horse or horse owners. Look at Texas A&M's vet school - it's weak in dentistry..... ...We used our vet to float one of our stallions teeth. He did not have miniature horse equipment so was forced to utilize the smallest big horse equipment he could find in his truck. He sedated our stallion and spent 20 minutes making a complete mess of his mouth. When he finally admitted defeat our horses mouth looked like bloody, ground beef and he still had not been able to fix the problem. It was the first and last time we ever used a vet for our horses dental needs. It will also be the last time. Our equine dentist does not use sedation and our horses have never seemed to feel discomfort of any kind. They have also never been stressed, unlike our first experience through our vet...... ...I used a vet to electronically file my horses teeth he filed it down so far that it fell out and now we can not use a bit in her mouth we DO NOT USE a VET FOR this type of service anymore..... ...Thank you for your support of Bobby Griswold who is a consummate professional in our trade. Bobby was my apprentice and he displayed outstanding horsemanship skills, dexterity with all dental instruments and understanding of our science. Anyone who knows Bobby knows that he does his job because the horses benefit. And what better way to support your family than providing a genuine service through which everyone benefits.... Our horses, and our equine professionals, will all suffer due to the legislation of close minded beaurocrats. If they throw Bobby Griswold in jail, they are going to have to set free hard core drug dealers and rapists to make room for the hard core equine dentists!!! |
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Coalition for Oklahoma Teeth Foaters
PO Box 135
Washington, OK 73093
or
okequinedentistrylaw@windstream.net